Interview with Pavel Chuvilov | Neotraditional | Russia 18/09/2023
Hello Pavel Chuvilov! Thank you for taking the time to
do this interview. It means a lot having this opportunity. Please
start by telling us something about yourself and your background.
Were you that curious, artistic kid who loved drawing his favourite
heroes? Hello! My name is Pavel. I was born 34 years
ago in St.Petersburg, Russia. In my childhood, I draw a lot and I
even had some lessons with teachers. However, I was far from having
good drawing skills and I wouldn't consider myself gifted in that
regard. I started learning to draw properly when I was already a
tattoo artist for a five years.
Q: How it all started? Why tattooing? When the fascination
for tattooing first began?
A: I got into the tattoo industry by a stroke of luck. It was the
end of 2011. We had an informal scene back then, it was the heyday
of subcultures in the CIS. On the recommendation of some folks from
the scene, I ended up at the studio of a respected tattoo artist at
that time. I came in to get an old-school sailing ship on my
shoulder. That's when I realized that it was a genuine, serious
profession! I was working a job I didn't like at the time and had no
idea what I wanted to do with my life. And then, this stroke of
luck! That master agreed to teach me the ropes of the profession.
That's how it all began.
Q: I bet there are many artists or art styles that you like or even
felt inspired by... Will you name some?
A: Honestly, I hardly follow traditional artists. I keep tabs on a
whole bunch of really cool tattoo artists and try to surround myself
with top-level professionals in life. That way, we constantly
inspire each other! It's a revolving cycle of inspiration! I also
draw inspiration from the visual style in movies and cartoons. And
of course, in video games too!
Q: As a beginner, what type of tattoos you use to do?
A: I started with American traditional tattooing. Well, I tried to
draw something similar, to be precise. But I wasn't very good at it.
:) After that, I struggled to find my own style, even though I
always designed all the tattoos myself for each client.
Q: Was it difficult to learn the process? The basics of tattooing,
putting the effort and the "trial & error" times... oh tell me more.
A: I quickly learned the basics, received help in assembling my
first equipment and that's where my training ended. In those days,
there was hardly any information available on the internet, so I had
to learn everything through my own experience. It was a long
journey! Nowadays, I sometimes teach people and they can go through
this path in just a few months! Unfortunately, I didn't have that
opportunity back then.
Q: How long it took you to figure out your creative direction?
A: I think it took about five years. That's when I realized I wanted
to specialize in "neotraditional" style. But desire alone wasn't
enough. It took me another couple of years to start getting the hang
of it within the framework of that style. I had to spend a year in
an art school to achieve this! I realized that my drawing skills
weren't sufficient for "neotraditional," so I went back to the
drawing board from scratch. :)
Q: Neo traditional tattoo style is awesome. It's like that cool
upgrade from the old school style. I love it. I believe tattoo
artists have more creative freedom when doing this style, than some
"strict" like realism etc. What do you like the most about neo
traditional?
A: Neotraditional style offers almost maximum creative freedom! I
can create a portrait, a landscape, and everything will fit within
the style's framework. I can also borrow elements or techniques from
oriental tattooing or "old school" and it still fits into the style.
Here, I can come up with absolutely anything, and I often do. :) If
I want to, I can draw pigeons with hairy chests and arms! If I want,
I can depict bodybuilder bananas relaxing on the beach. Some guys
don't even outline their works! And it's all still neotraditional!
Q: Honestly, I think the level of quality is way higher not just
technically, but creatively as well... People expect some crazy,
(100%) unique design from you each day. Do you feel challenged
sometimes?
A: Thank you! Actually, the secret is that I hardly ever create free
designs. Almost everything you see in my portfolio is either my
clients' ideas or our collaborative fantasies. That's why I've
become accustomed to working with this particular approach.
Q: Do you have a favorite design you drew for a client and you
consider it to be "next level" creatively?
A: I'm the kind of person who always thinks, "Pasha, you could do
better" I constantly set a bar that I can't jump over. I believe
it's the direct path to endless growth. That's why there isn't a
work like the one you're asking about yet.
Q: What would be the craziest (yet) design you want to see/tattoo on
someone's skin?
A: One tattoo artist and I had an idea to create a realistic belly
button and surround it with a colorful "tribal" design. I still want
to make it happen! Any takers?
Q: I love the prints too. Really nice quality! There are also some
old school flash sets! So, so great! Do you sell some? I think it
would be brilliant if you design a clothing line, interesting
tshirts etc. Just a suggestion.
A: In reality, apart from conventions, I've never really sold my
prints anywhere else. I guess I lack the focus to take on that
aspect as well. Although thoughts about clothing, for example, cross
my mind regularly.
Q: Now tell me about your clients. How long they wait for an
appointment and are they allowed to bring some reference images?
A: I try not to plan beyond a month ahead, so there's not much of a
wait for appointments. The client needs to gather a set of visual
references that we'll base the tattoo on. These can be various
tattoos they like, photos, frames from movies, or even just
explaining their idea in words, and I'll draw it in my style. I use
every means to ensure that after the first consultation, there's no
room for misunderstanding, and I'm prepared to create exactly what
the client wants!
- Do you accept all requests or they are some designs you simply
won't do?
If the idea fits within my style preferences, I'm almost always
ready to bring it to life. I believe I wouldn't create tattoos with
ideologies that are not aligned with my own or make me
uncomfortable. Fortunately, such requests tend to stay away from me.
All my clients share similar interests, worldviews, and ways of
thinking, which is quite fortunate!
Q: What about the indecisive ones? Not knowing what design they
want, but for sure, they want a tattoo from you, no doubt! Hah! Do
you help them, show them some designs, or the "door"?
A: If someone likes my portfolio and wants a tattoo in my style, we
can always work with associations and images. During consultations,
I always ask the client about their interests, what resonates with
them, and what repels them in tattoos. We almost always find a
common ground. This way, an idea is born, and from there, the rest
of the details fall into place like a snowball rolling downhill.
Q: You meet all types of people every day. I bet there are some very
funny and memorable moments that keep reminding you that this
profession is not just a job to pay the bills. What do you like the
most about being a tattoo artist?
A: That's exactly what I love most about my profession! The
opportunity to meet and interact with such diverse people! And most
importantly, during our sessions, they can be themselves without
masks. They could be high-ranking executives or business owners,
lifeguards, engineers, doctors, or musicians. In the studio,
everyone is equal! When they come in for a session, we can crack
silly jokes and have the whole studio laughing. In their regular
lives, many of them might not have the chance to let loose like
that!
- Would you change something?
I would get myself a super-powered cyber spine! The current one gets
pretty tired from all the tattoo sessions.
Q: Now in Turkey, how is the tattoo scene there? Do you see
progress?
A: I arrived here about a year and a half ago, so I haven't fully
grasped everything yet. But it seems to me that the tattoo industry
is still gaining a momentum here. As far as I've understood, there's
only one tattoo festival here each year. In Russia, we had at least
8 a year in various cities. Neotraditional and new school tattoos
are not very common in Turkey. So, there's room for growth and
opportunity! The competition among artists here is currently quite
low, which can hinder their development.
Q: In few words, what would you recommend to all the young people
who will read this interview and want to try getting into this
business?
A: If you want to become a tattoo artist be prepared to invest
several years, just like in any other profession. After that, you
can start reaping the rewards! This profession demands a lot of
dedication and the cost of making a mistake can be high. But, in my
opinion, the benefits far outweigh the drawbacks! If you want to
become a tattoo artist, start practicing your drawing skills early.
Learn from others' mistakes, for example, from mine.