Interview with Jeremy Bertin | Realism | France 16/06/2022
Hello Bertin! Thank you so much for taking the time to answer some questions for our readers.
Please start by telling us something about yourself and your background. How did you discover your talent for arts? Were you like an artistic kid?
When I was a child, I really liked to draw and create things with my hands, but I always considered it a technical learning. Not as something artistic. What is satisfying for me is knowing where I want to go, and understanding the technical path to get there.
Q: What type of art do you like the
most?
A: The tattoo of course. But if the tattoo did not exist, it would
be the music because its power is incredible.
Q: What got you interested in tattooing?
A: I no longer wanted to draw on paper, so I was looking for a new
way. I discovered tattooing at that point and the idea of using the
human body as a support interested me a lot. It makes possible to
work on real volumes. The idea of working on a living support was
nice too. But above all, I have always liked being given challenges
in drawing. Alone, I never knew what to draw, so tattooing brought
me projects, with themes, stories to interpret. This is perfect for
me.
Q: When did you realize that you want to dedicate your time
and really try to make something out of tattooing rather than just a
hobby etc?
A: I started on my own with a beginner's tattoo kit. My first
attempts were on synthetic skins. I didn't like that at all. It was
when I tried on real skin that I really understood. Doing tattoos is
addictive. Then, I had the chance to watch an artist work for a
while, and I loved the atmosphere, the exchange with the client, the
noise of the machines. A tattoo shop is an atypical place, and from
that moment I wanted to spend my days there.
Q: How long it took you to get real clients?
A: I started having real customers only when I moved into the shop,
3 years after my first attempts on synthetic skins. Many people
quickly trusted me, and after that it became exponential.
Q: Tattooing is not an easy job, even for the super talented
who can draw really good on paper but mastering the tattoo skills
takes time. Do you agree?
A: I don't think tattooing is more difficult than any other artistic
practice. Of course there are stressful constraints, linked to the
body and the fact that we cannot erase. But I think it's mostly a
matter of sensitivity. Some people are more comfortable with pencils
or brushes, according to me, nothing fits as well as the needles on
the skin. For the rest, it is an apprenticeship like any other, with
fundamentals to be acquired.
Q: Tattoo realism is one of the most popular tattoo style,
I'm glad that tattoos are a way more than just a tribal, cross and
rose hah remember those? I think we've come a long way. Tattoo
realism is a whole new level. What do you like the most about this
style?
A: Yes, at first I didn't like tattoos because I only saw the tribal
designs and I didn't understand the purpose. Then, I saw Japanese
tattoos that I started to get interested in them, and then each
style seemed like a complete and interesting area to me. Realism is
not for me the most difficult tattoo style. But it has a dimension
that is rarely found in other styles. When people can’t take their
eyes off the tattoo, then the work is successful. You can achieve
realism quite easily by simply reproducing photos. But what
interests me is to go beyond this to try to give life to the
project, to bring a soul to the tattoo. This requires interpreting
the reference image without trying to reproduce it exactly.
Q: I really like the dark brown tones and the beautiful
overall color mix. It makes the final look more vibrant. I bet all
look great even when the skin fully heals. How much the knowledge of
the tattoo inks and their proper usage, skin reaction and look plays
a big role?
A: Thanks, I like brown a lot too, that's why I use it. It's a color
that naturally lays on the skin, and using it with gray allows me to
work on hot and cold color to accentuate a depth effect in the
tattoo. It is very important to know your colors well. You have to
take the time to choose them well, and above all to understand how
each ink ages and arises in relation to the others. Creating your
own color palette is a job that takes time. The brown tones that I
use don’t all age the same way, some end up more colorful than
others. So I try to play with this effect, to accentuate shapes and
volumes.
Q: Ink... It is tough for those who want a cover up, very
little room. Do you do cover ups?
A: I only do very few cover-ups, because I like to play on the light
in my projects and therefore I have a lot of clear areas. For the
cover-ups, I keep a lot of freedom for the creation of the project,
it's important.
Q: Tell me a bit about the creative part... Do you use
reference images? Do you draw some sketches before the session or it
could be done freehand?
A: I always use photographs for reference. I love working on photo
montages or image editing. The most important thing is to choose
your references carefully and to know how to place and size them
according to the area to be tattooed. I sometimes work freehand, but
only for effects that surround the main subjects.
Q: I bet to be creative and talented at the same time is a
huge blessing. There's always something new that will come up as an
idea and if one can actually make something out of it, either a
tattoo, graffiti or a painting... Wow! I guess each of us want
that... Do you agree? It's freedom and gateway to a job that one
actually loves. Do you have like a favorite tattoo that you consider
as a "level up" creatively, technically?
A: I don't think that I'm very creative. I see myself more as a
technician, I like to observe and analyze things. In my work, it is
the technique that fascinates me the most. That’s how I work for all
the things I do, I break down and work point by point to achieve
perfection. My creativity lies rather in my ability to work
according to my desires, as for my color palette. I dare to try
things once the idea is planned, and that allows me to have
originality. When it comes to tattoos, creativity always depends on
the freedom that each client gives us.
Q: Do you plan to stick to tattoo realism or maybe you will
try something completely different in the feature?
A: I am not attached to realism, currently it is the area in which I
flourish the most, but there is a good possibility that this will
change over time. However, I don't think I'll specialize later in
something completely different. Let's say that I intend to evolve my
realism, maybe direct it towards neotrad for example. But I will
wait for it to come naturally.
Q: So many clients and hard work something is just hard to
be creative every day especially in a job like this, when clients
expect only the best results from you since you're giving them a
lifetime gift, how hard is really to keep up with a busy schedule?
What do you do when inspiration is just not there?
A: In general for me, the inspiration is not there when the client
has a too specific request. Sometimes it's complicated, but often my
clients trust me and agree to follow some of my advices. Otherwise,
I have already canceled projects. I think you shouldn't always force
things, it's important to have a good feeling for a good tattoo. If
it doesn't fit, it doesn't matter. I therefore cancel the projects
in this case, and I send people to other artists who may be able to
respond better than me to their request.
Q: What are some of the best experiences with the clients?
How much their support really means to you and keeps you motivated?
A: Any experience is good to take, each person is different and it
is always interesting to have to adapt. Sometimes, we find ourselves
having a great feeling with the client and it becomes a very good
memory. For example, I remember a client at a convention. While
talking, we realized that we had grown up in the same place and that
we had been to the same high school during the same years. It's
quite funny to think that we met several times when we were young,
and that years later he chose me to make a big tattoo near his
heart. Customer support really makes me want to give my best. But
I'm also careful not to rely on it, I want to express aesthetically
and not only seek for positive feedback. I don’t want to get stuck
in what I’m good at and no longer take risks.
Q: Do you have any interesting hobbies like painting or
digital art that help you get inspired or just to kill the boredom?
A: I have a lot of passion, but with tattooing I don't have much
time for myself. Maybe one day I will manage to take the time for
painting, I would really like to develop oil painting. Otherwise
photography interests me a lot, because it teaches you to see the
environment and how to capture the moment.
Q: What's your opinion about the tattoo scene in France? Do
you see progress?
A: The French tattoo is in a good phase I think. There are now
plenty of new artists (including myself) who manage to stand out and
influence. It completes the offer of the elders who have more
hindsight on their practice. When the exchange takes place between
these generations, it is really interesting and promises quality.
Nevertheless, I would like the profession to be more recognized by
the State. And above all, this European restriction on inks is an
aberration which may get tattooing back to the marginal state it
used to be.
Q: Are you available for bookings? If do please write down
your email and studio location.
A: I am available for booking, my agenda is always open. I am
located at 9 rue saint Lazare 36300 Le Blanc. For any project, just
contact me by email on tattoolvi@gmail.com, and make sure to
describe me the theme of the project, the size and the desired area.
Q: What would you say to all those young people who will
read this interview and will try to start tattooing, what they
should be aware of, what's your recommendation?
A: I see a lot of neophytes telling me that they would like to be a
tattoo artist specializing in realism. I don't understand this
approach, for me you have to like the tattoo as a whole and accept
any kind of project. Style comes to us over time. It is important to
love what you do and to have fun. I didn't expect to be realistic at
all. To progress, you have to break down the practice to the
extreme, focus for a while on the line, the filling, the notion of
contrast, the placement in relation to the body, the idea of
movement, etc... each step can be deepened to become a specialty and
an art of its own. It is by working on all these points that we
build a solid base of several fundamentals, which then allows us to
have great creative freedom. Do not hesitate to write notes in a
notebook reserved for tattooing. It is always beneficial to read it
again from time to time.
Mr.Bertin Thank you so much for the interview, we really appreciate.